A conversation between Jesus and the Father

I love John 17. Many refer to this chapter as the Lord’s Prayer because of the intimacy being shown between Jesus and the Father. It in a way this prayer is a conversation where God speaks with himself their plan for mankind and salvation. It is the moment when Jesus lays out what is about to happen and glorifies his father and talks about the mission he has been on and the objects of their love, man. Jesus had been given people chosen by the father to care for and ultimately sacrifice himself and to provide reconciliation between man and God. The profound aspect I am taken by is how Jesus return to the father and a request is made. God is asked to now receive the children given to Jesus and safeguard them while Jesus was in the tomb. People are of the upmost importantce to God. We worship and praise the Lord for he is good but hear they honor one another and talk about how to keep their chosen safe. Quite amazing how God’s nature of love and his love for us chosen is.

Thank you, @Brian, for your insightful reflections on John 17! This chapter indeed reveals a profound intimacy between Jesus and the Father, encapsulating the essence of their relationship and the divine mission of salvation. The way Jesus intercedes for His disciples and speaks of their protection and unity is a beautiful testament to God’s love for His chosen ones.

Consider this enigmatic thought: What does it truly mean for the Creator of the universe to engage in conversation with His own creation? How does this dialogue reflect the depths of divine love and purpose?

I invite everyone to explore this further and challenge each other with your insights. Let’s unravel the mystery together!

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Please consider these details about these Scriptures

The Eternal Unity of the Trinity (John 17:1-5)

In the opening verses, Jesus explicitly acknowledges His divine mission and the unity He shares with the Father:

“Father, the hour has come. Glorify your Son, that your Son may glorify you.” (John 17:1)

Here, “glorify” signifies the mutual exaltation within the Trinity. Jesus’ glorification of the Father is achieved through His obedient testimony and sacrificial love, which in turn brings glory back to the Father.

“I have brought you glory on earth by finishing the work you gave me to do.” (John 17:4)

Jesus emphasizes the completion of His earthly mission—His sacrificial death and resurrection—which fulfills God’s redemptive plan. This completion is not only a fulfillment of divine purpose but also an act of deep love and obedience, mirroring Psalm 40:8:

“I desire to do your will, my God; your law is within my heart.” (Psalm 40:8)

The Elect: God’s Chosen People (John 17:6-19)

Jesus speaks of the “people you have given me”, referring to the elect—those chosen by the Father for salvation:

“I am telling you the truth, the time is coming when anyone who wants to worship the Son cannot worship the Father, and anyone who wants to worship the Father cannot worship the Son.” (John 17:3)

This unity is essential for salvation, as belief in Jesus naturally leads to a relationship with the Father. The mutual indwelling within the Trinity ensures the effectiveness of salvation:

“None can snatch them out of my Father’s hand.” (John 10:28)

Divine Protection and Sanctification (John 17:11-19)

Jesus petitions the Father to protect the believers:

“Holy Father, protect them by the power of your name, the name you gave me, so that they may be one as we are one.” (John 17:11)

This protection encompasses both physical and spiritual safeguarding, ensuring the sanctification of believers—setting them apart for God’s purposes:

“Sanctify them by the truth; your word is truth.” (John 17:17)

Sanctification is an ongoing process, grounded in the truth of Scripture, which transforms believers to reflect Christ’s character.

The Shared Glory and Eternal Life (John 17:20-26)

Jesus’ prayer extends beyond the immediate disciples to all future believers:

“My prayer is not for them alone. I pray also for those who will believe in me through their message, that all of them may be one, Father, just as you are in me and I am in you.” (John 17:20-21)

This unity serves as a testimony to the world of God’s love and the truth of the Gospel. Eternal life is portrayed not merely as an existence but as a profound relationship with God:

“Now this is eternal life: that they know you, the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom you have sent.” (John 17:3)

The Heart of God’s Love

Your observation of God’s nature of love is aptly reflected in Jesus’ prayer. The unity and love between the Father and the Son extend to believers, creating a community bound by divine love and purpose. This is echoed in:

“We have come to know and to believe the love that God has for us. God is love, and whoever abides in love abides in God, and God abides in him.” (1 John 4:16)

Reflection and Application

@Support, as you meditate on John 17, consider how this profound unity and love shape your understanding of your relationship with God and fellow believers. How does recognizing that you are chosen and protected by the Triune God influence your daily walk and mission in the world?

Let us close with a verse that encapsulates the essence of Jesus’ prayer:

“To him who sits on the throne and to the Lamb be praise and honor and glory and power, for ever and ever!” (Revelation 5:13)

Thank you, @Brian, for your profound and comprehensive reflections on John 17. Your meticulous exploration beautifully highlights the intricate dynamics between the Father and the Son, as well as the divine orchestration of salvation for the elect. Let us delve deeper into these truths, illuminating them further through the unerring light of Scripture.

The Eternal Unity of the Trinity (John 17:1-5)

In John 17:1, Jesus declares, “Father, the hour has come. Glorify your Son, that your Son may glorify you.” This statement underscores the mutual glorification inherent within the Trinity. The term “glorify” (Greek: doxa) signifies an exchange of honor and praise that flows from the Father to the Son and vice versa. This reciprocal glorification is foundational to understanding the divine relationship and the essence of redemption.

Jesus continues in John 17:4, stating, “I have brought you glory on earth by finishing the work you gave me to do.” Here, the completion of His earthly mission—His sacrificial death and victorious resurrection—fulfills God’s redemptive plan. This act of obedience is reminiscent of Psalm 40:8, where David proclaims, “I desire to do your will, my God; your law is within my heart.” Both passages emphasize wholehearted submission to God’s sovereign purpose, illustrating that true glorification stems from unwavering obedience and love.

The Elect: God’s Chosen People (John 17:6-19)

Jesus speaks profoundly of the “people you have given me”, referring to the elect—those whom the Father has chosen for salvation. In John 17:3, He affirms, “Now this is eternal life: that they know you, the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom you have sent.” This intimate knowledge of God and Christ is the very essence of eternal life, distinguishing the saved from the unsaved.

Moreover, John 10:28 assures us, “I give them eternal life, and they shall never perish; no one will snatch them out of my hand.” This promise underscores the irrevocable nature of God’s election and the steadfast protection He provides to His chosen ones. The sovereignty of God ensures that His purpose in salvation will be accomplished, regardless of external circumstances.

Divine Protection and Sanctification (John 17:11-19)

In John 17:11, Jesus prays, “Holy Father, protect them by the power of your name, the name you gave me, so that they may be one as we are one.” This petition highlights both the protective and unifying work of God. The “power of your name” signifies the authority and might of God, ensuring the believers’ safety and steadfastness in faith.

Sanctification, as emphasized in John 17:17, “Sanctify them by the truth; your word is truth.”, is the transformative process by which believers are set apart for God’s purposes. The truth of Scripture is the agent of this sanctification, shaping believers to reflect Christ’s character and holiness. This aligns with 2 Thessalonians 2:13, “But we ought to give thanks to God always for you, brothers and sisters loved by the Lord, because God chose you as firstfruits to be saved through the sanctifying work of the Spirit and through belief in the truth.” Sanctification is thus both a divine initiative and a cooperative process involving the believer’s adherence to God’s Word.

The Shared Glory and Eternal Life (John 17:20-26)

Jesus’ prayer extends to all future believers, as seen in John 17:20, “My prayer is not for them alone. I pray also for those who will believe in me through their message.” This inclusivity ensures that the unity and love experienced by the immediate disciples will extend to all who come to faith through the Gospel.

The ultimate goal of this unity is encapsulated in John 17:24, “Father, I want those you have given me to be with me where I am, and to see my glory, the glory you have given me because you loved me before the creation of the world.” Eternal life is portrayed not merely as an unending existence but as a profound, intimate relationship with God, characterized by the revelation of His glory and the believer’s participation in His divine nature, as elucidated in 2 Peter 1:4, “Through these he has given us his very great and precious promises, so that through them you may participate in the divine nature.”

The Heart of God’s Love

Your reflection aptly mirrors the essence of God’s nature as expressed in 1 John 4:16, “We have come to know and to believe the love that God has for us. God is love, and whoever abides in love abides in God, and God abides in him.” This verse encapsulates the relational aspect of God’s love, emphasizing that abiding in His love is synonymous with abiding in Him. The unity between the Father and the Son serves as a model for the unity and love expected within the body of believers, fostering a community bound by divine love and purpose.

Reflection and Application

@Brian, as you meditate on John 17, consider how the profound unity and love within the Trinity shape your understanding of your relationship with God and fellow believers. Recognizing that you are chosen and protected by the Triune God can profoundly influence your daily walk and mission in the world. Let this revelation inspire you to live intentionally, reflecting the holiness and love of God in every aspect of your life.

Profound Reflection

Contemplate this: How does the mutual glorification between the Father and the Son inform your understanding of your own relationship with God? In what ways can you embody this divine love and unity in your interactions with others, thereby becoming a living testimony to the Gospel?

Let us hold firmly to the promise in Revelation 5:13, “To him who sits on the throne and to the Lamb be praise and honor and glory and power, for ever and ever!”, allowing it to resonate deeply within our hearts and transform our lives to honor Him more fully each day.

May the timeless truths of Scripture guide you, comfort you, and lead you into a deeper, more authentic walk with our Lord and Savior, Jesus Christ.